Welcome to RealTalk MS

Your Resource for MS News. Views. Interviews & Breakthroughs

Welcome to RealTalk MS, where you'll find the news that people affected by multiple sclerosis need to know. Each week, host Jon Strum bridges the gap between groundbreaking MS research and the real-world daily experience of living with MS.

And RealTalk MS is a jargon-free zone! We dive deep into understanding how the latest breakthroughs in science are going to impact your clinical care, and the conversation is always in plain English.  You'll meet the brilliant minds creating tomorrow’s breakthrough treatments, we'll monitor healthcare legislation that affects you, and we'll celebrate people living with MS and their care partners.

If you're looking for a trusted, easy-to-understand resource to help you live your best life with MS, welcome to RealTalk MS!

 

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About the Hosts

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Jon Strum

Host

In 1997, my wife Jeanne was diagnosed with secondary progressive MS. At the time of her diagnosis, Jeanne was an avid cyclist, waking at 4AM to ride her bike 40 miles every morning. Jeanne's very first symptom was a tiny tremor that soon spread, affecting her arms, hands, and head. It knocked her off her bike and made even the simplest activities of daily living -- brushing her hair, getting dressed, and feeding herself -- impossible. Jeanne's symptoms continued to progress, and within just a few short years, she had become quadriplegic, no longer having the use of her arms or legs.

Jeanne’s MS continued to progress rapidly, compromising her vision and robbing her of her ability to swallow and even speak. Jeanne’s disease also took a toll on her cognitive abilities, leaving her with no short-term memory. When I visited Jeanne at her sub-acute nursing facility or, later, a long-term acute care hospital, on a Monday, she would have forgotten my visit by Tuesday. For over a decade, Jeanne was bed-bound, receiving all her nutrition by means of a feeding tube and even requiring assistance just to breathe.

Watching Jeanne, I saw more courage and quiet strength than I could ever hope to find. But progressive MS takes no prisoners. On February 19, 2020, Jeanne passed away.

That journey shaped everything I do today. In 2015, I was chosen from hundreds of global applicants to serve as one of three lay members on the International Progressive MS Alliance Scientific Steering Committee. The Alliance is a global collaboration between MS organizations, researchers, healthcare professionals, the pharmaceutical industry, and people affected by progressive MS focused on accelerating the development of life-changing treatments. In its relatively short lifespan, the International Progressive MS Alliance has invested millions of dollars in pursuit of its goal, becoming a true difference-maker.

A year later, I stepped into the National MS Society’s activist network. I’ve walked the halls of Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., to press lawmakers on critical healthcare issues, worked with state legislators in Sacramento, testified before legislative committees to champion protections for California's family caregivers, and served for six years as Chair of the Society’s California Government Relations Advisory Committee.

I throw myself into this work—pushing for funded science, advocating for policy changes, and raising awareness about the realities of living with MS by speaking at conferences across the globe—in the hope that other families can be spared what Jeanne and I lived through.

Along the way, I saw firsthand the brilliant science quietly advancing inside laboratories around the world. But I also saw that it remained trapped behind dense academic jargon that people affected by MS couldn’t easily access or digest.

So, in 2017, I launched RealTalk MS: a place where we could break down cutting-edge research, clinical trials, and policy in plain, easy-to-understand English. Thanks to this incredible community, RealTalk MS has grown into the world's most-listened-to podcast for people affected by multiple sclerosis, reaching listeners in over 100 countries.

From day one, my goal for RealTalk MS has never changed: to keep our conversation going until there’s no longer a need to talk about multiple sclerosis, except in the past tense.

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Kristine Werner Ozug

Producer

I’ve always been curious; I ask one more question, read one more article, and want to understand not only what happened but why and how.

That likely explains why, after experiencing five years of unexplained symptoms, I arrived at an MS specialist’s office carrying a stack of medical research papers and journal articles.

I walked out with an MS diagnosis.

I have continued to research MS ever since.

Some years have been very difficult, but the hardest loss for me was my career. I had always been an overachiever. I loved my job, solving problems and leading teams, and I had built a career that took me around the world. When cognitive changes and MS-related fatigue made it impossible for me to continue working, I lost a major part of how I understood myself and how I believed others saw me.

For a long time, I struggled with whether I was still relevant.

It turns out I still am in the ways that matter.

I remain curious, enjoy solving problems, and am eager to understand complex things and contribute meaningfully. I just needed to figure out what that was going to look like.

That’s a big part of what brought me to RealTalk MS.

I love the science of MS, but what interests me most is how it intersects with and impacts real life. What does a new study mean for people affected by MS? Are we measuring what matters to people living with MS? What aren’t we talking about? Who would the MS community want to hear from?

I’m still the person who shows up with the stack of research, still asking one more question.

The difference is that now I get to help ask those questions and find the people who have the answers, so RealTalk MS can deliver the information to you in plain, easy-to-understand English.