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Episode 405: From the 2025 Consortium of MS Centers Annual Meeting — Part One with Dr. Kathy Zackowski and Dr. Stephen Krieger


Last week in Phoenix, Arizona, the Consortium of Multiple Sclerosis Centers (CMSC) held its annual meeting, and we had a chance to talk with some of the top MS experts in the world. Welcome to Part One of our coverage!

Consortium of MS Centers 2025 Annual Meeting

First, you'll hear Dr. Kathy Zackowski, the National MS Society's Associate Vice-President of Research, share her overview of the sessions and presentations that especially stood out to her.

Then, you'll hear Dr. Stephen Krieger as he expands on one of the most interesting and provocative presentations at the conference. Dr. Krieger headed up a panel of experts that explained how the terms used to describe MS today (relapsing-remitting, secondary progressive, and primary progressive) are no longer adequate and then offered answers to the question, “If MS is one disease, what does that mean for clinical conversations?“.

We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??!


This Week: From the 2025 Consortium of MS Centers Annual Meeting  :22

Dr. Kathy Zackowski shares an overview of the sessions and presentations that caught her eye  1:08

Dr. Stephen Krieger discusses seeing MS as one disease  17:11

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RealTalk MS Episode 405
Guests: Dr. Kathy Zackowski and Dr. Stephen Krieger

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