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Episode 397: Managing Grief and MS with Dr. Mary-Frances O’Connor


For many people, it can be difficult to talk about the feelings of loss that can accompany MS. For some, it's the loss of the way they imagined their life would turn out. For others, it's the more specific loss of function. Perhaps the loss of their mobility. Or a decline in their cognitive skills. It's painful to imagine any of these scenarios, let alone experience them in real life.

Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor

The human response to loss is grief. And grieving itself can affect your physical, emotional, and cognitive health. Joining me today to discuss how grieving can affect you, along with ways to best manage grief, is Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor.

Dr. O'Connor is a professor of psychology at the University of Arizona, where she directs the Grief, Loss, and Social Stress Lab, investigating the effects of grief on the brain and the body. Dr. O'Connor also lives with MS, and the title of her new book is The Grieving Body: How the Stress of Loss Can Be an Opportunity for Healing.

We'll also share the results of a study on MS fatigue in Finland.

We'll tell you about a study that focused on sexual dysfunction among women living with MS in Iran.

You'll learn what a research team discovered when they connected sick days from work with the prodromal phase of MS.

And we're sharing a new resource from the MS International Federation that will help you assess which wellness practices and complementary therapies may be beneficial for you.

We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??!


This Week: Managing the grief that comes from living with MS  :22

Results from a Finnish study adds further evidence to what we know about MS fatigue  1:36

Results of a study that focused on sexual dysfunction among women living with MS in Iran  3:13

Can job-related sick days help researchers better understand the prodromal phase of MS?  5:48

The MS International Federation has produced a very worthwhile guide to wellness practices and complementary therapies for people with MS  10:49

Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor discusses managing the grief that accompanies being diagnosed with MS  12:42

Share this episode  34:02

Have you downloaded the free RealTalk MS app?  34:22


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LINKS

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Become an MS Activist
Web: https://nationalmssociety.org/advocacy
Email: msactivist@nmss.org

STUDY: Evaluation of Patient-Perceived Fatigue in Multiple Sclerosis Using the Finnish MS Registry
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20552173251325098

STUDY: The Prevalence of Sexual Dysfunction and Its Contributors Among the Women with Multiple Sclerosis
https://bmcwomenshealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12905-025-03653-y

STUDY: The Prodromal Phase of Multiple Sclerosis: Evidence from Sickness Absence Patterns Before Disease Onset — A Matched Cohort Study
https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/early/2025/03/25/jnnp-2024-335279.full

STUDY (PLAIN ENGLISH VERSION): The Prodromal Phase of Multiple Sclerosis: Evidence from Sickness Absence Patterns Before Disease Onset — A Matched Cohort Study
https://tremlettsmsresearchexplained.wordpress.com/2025/03/26/the-prodromal-phase-of-multiple-sclerosis-evidence-from-sickness-absence-patterns-before-disease-onset-a-matched-cohort-study-explained

DOWNLOAD: Wellness Practices and Complementary Therapies in MS
https://msif.org/resources/wellness-practices-and-complementary-therapies/

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RealTalk MS Episode 397
Guests: Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor

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Episode 396: The Importance of Cancer Screenings for People Living with MS With Dr. Ruth Ann Marrie


Managing MS means staying focused not only on your MS but also on your overall health. That includes getting routine health screenings to stay ahead of potential complications. Recent research has shown that, compared to healthy people, people with MS are more likely to develop some cancers.

Dr. Ruth Ann Marrie

Clinician-scientist Dr. Ruth Ann Marrie joins me to discuss which cancers pose a greater risk to someone with MS, why you need to make those appointments for cancer screenings, where you can find low-cost or no-cost cancer screenings, and things you can do to further minimize your risk of developing cancer.

Dr. Marrie is a professor of medicine and the Multiple Sclerosis Clinical Research Chair at Dalhousie University in Canada. She's a past recipient of the Barancik Prize for Innovation in MS Research and is recognized as one of the world's leading MS experts.

We'll also explain how and why we're going to be discussing the impact of those devastating federal budget cuts and mass layoffs in the federal agencies responsible for healthcare and MS research on this podcast.

We'll tell you about the FDA's decision to grant priority review to Tolebrutinib. (We'll also explain why Tolebrutinib isn't just another DMT. We're even sharing the projected date when the FDA will make its approval decision!)

And you'll learn what happened when a research team set out to identify the diversity-related characteristics of the MS population in Canada.

We have a lot to talk about! Are you ready for RealTalk MS??!


How and why we'll be talking about the impact of public policy on people affected by MS :22

Hear what's on the minds of some of the attendees at last week's National MS Society Public Policy Conference  3:55

This Week: The importance of cancer screenings for people with MS  12:52

Tolebrutinib, an investigative DMT from Sanofi, is granted priority review by the FDA  13:44

What happened when researchers set out to identify the diversity-related characteristics of the MS population in Canada  17:56

Dr. Ruth Ann Marrie discusses the importance of cancer screenings for people living with MS  20:02

Share this episode  30:03

Have you downloaded the free RealTalk MS app?  30:23


SHARE THIS EPISODE OF REALTALK MS

Just copy this link & paste it into your text or email: https://realtalkms.com/396

ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION

I've always thought about the RealTalk MS podcast as a conversation. And this is your opportunity to join the conversation by sharing your feedback, questions, and suggestions for topics that we can discuss in future podcast episodes. Please shoot me an email or call the RealTalk MS Listener Hotline and share your thoughts!

Email: jon@realtalkms.com
Phone: (310) 526-2283

And don't forget to join us in the RealTalk MS Facebook group!


LINKS

If your podcast app doesn't allow you to click on these links, you'll find them in the show notes in the RealTalk MS app or at www.RealTalkMS.com

Become an MS Activist
Web: https://nationalmssociety.org/advocacy
Email: msactivist@nmss.org

VIDEO: Tolebrutinib and Non-Relapsing Secondary Progressive MS with Dr. Robert Fox
https://realtalkms.com/tolebrutinib1

VIDEO: Tolebrutinib and Relapsing-Remitting MS with Dr. Jiwon Oh
https://realtalkms.com/tolebrutinib2

VIDEO: RealTalk MS 2025 ACTRIMS Forum YouTube Playlist
https://realtalkms.com/actrims

STUDY: Characterizing the Diversity of the Multiple Sclerosis Population in Canada: A Scoping Review
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20552173251321814

STUDY (PLAIN ENGLISH VERSION): Characterizing the Diversity of the Multiple Sclerosis Population in Canada: A Scoping Review
https://tremlettsmsresearchexplained.wordpress.com/2025/03/20/characterizing-the-diversity-of-the-multiple-sclerosis-population-in-canada-a-scoping-review-explained

Join the RealTalk MS Facebook Group
https://facebook.com/groups/realtalkms

Download the RealTalk MS App for iOS Devices
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/realtalk-ms/id1436917200

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Give RealTalk MS a rating and review
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RealTalk MS Episode 396
Guests: Dr. Ruth Ann Marrie

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